Thamesiders Physical Meet – Saturday, 27 May 2023

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Dennis’ CNW opening the N Scale portion of the stream with some track cleaning

Today marked a busy day for us with excellent numbers all around for good set up times overall. The HO was in a state of readiness before the N, and was streaming first. The N Scale however wasn’t far behind. The stream was up 30 minutes late; something I’ll try to avoid during the open house. We also were able to run until 15:30, something which would be dangerous during normal days.

The HO had changed its setup from a 7×0 to a 6×0, to ease concerns around accessibility and general safety around the stage. From what I had seen of items placed on the staging yards, there was still some decently sized trains, including one track holding my long express passenger and local, served by a doodlebug.

Both setups saw a mix of eras; steam, diesel and gas-electric (doodlebugs). The open house will be, in my mind, a very interesting event showing a decent variety of stock and consists. I was also pleased to see some free track space on the HO for those members which were not able to join us, but will during the open house!


Neal’s (author’s) Super Chief consist being pulled by a ABB lash up of F units.

There was a lot of fixing and fine tuning for the HO, and it seemed that way for the N as well, especially at the start. When things got going both sides of the hall were able to properly test their trains to a reasonable degree before lunch and pack up time. For me, my main goal was to test my ever closer Super Chief consist, with the recently finished interior detailed and lighted pleasure dome, and some of the other cars which I had recently classified into my fleet such as the dorm-lounge, 10-6 sleepers, the lonely 4-4-2 and the diner.


Author’s pleasure dome. It was a troublemaker this session so needs some more attention before it gets anywhere close to the open day.

Unfortunately, several cars had some troubles. Walthers is almost famous for their trucks needing a tune up, and the Rapido dormitory lounge still seems to have some coupler sag on one end, seeing itself quickly shipped off whilst in staging. The pleasure dome was the most disappointing of all; very pretty to look at but her trucks kept binding like no tomorrow. I doubt it is the hard wiring because my observation car had a similar surgery on it and is still running beautifully.


A CNW heavyweight consist pausing at the station on the N Scale while a more modern coal drag passes by.

I was also pleased to see Paul H join us for some running with a D&RGW SD9 (I will confirm that) hauling an ore string carefully around the Essex Belt Lines. Hopefully with at least two other backup dispatchers, I’m sure we could give Paul some time to run his own trains again, especially on the open day.


Paul H’s most welcomed contribution and personally one of the highlights from today.

Amongst the pre-Amtrak era steam and diesel consists Mike A’s more modern unit train introduced some auto rack spice, hauled by one of the more modern BNSF machines. Due to the questionable quality of the stream, my camera will need to be out at some point during the open house to create a similar collection of favourites as seen from the May meet last year.


Mike A’s contribution pulling past Peach Meadows

Paul H was kind enough to continue his search for the missing buildings by trawling through his attic, until he came across the missing billboard on Clark Junction, the barn on Peach Meadows and the tower for APT. The original station hasn’t turned up yet, but our stand in has done well (and not just because it’s branded by my road)!


David’s Canadian Pacific hopper train, complete with a cameo of the man himself detecting the audience a few moments before this was taken!

In spite of the errors plaguing my main budding passenger consist, a smaller consist hauled by an E8m with the behaving cars seemed to fare better, and close to pack up time I managed to get a run of the newer freight consist of mine out with an AB configuration of F Units. The only troublemaker on that consist was a reefer toward the end and possibly a branch line box car. Everything else ran superbly and with metal wheelsets and standardised weights, I was entranced by the clickity clacks as the freight passed by.


Author’s F Units pulling the mixed freight as Michael T surveys the operation. Prior to this, the train nearly had a run in with Mike’s as both were too long for the sidings, and he very kindly backed up his train and let mine pass. I’ll try to return the favour next time…

Speaking of lovely audio, I was a little saddened by the issues I faced still with the audio. By lunch time I was able to isolate default settings on my laptop and upon reviewing the second video’s footage, a conversation with a budding new member and the N scalers was heard; it seems a little patience does pay off. I was hoping to test the range of sounds which could be picked up by the mics during this session, but it’ll have to be at home now before the open house. There’s still a chance you too will be able to hear the rhythm of the trains!

Beyond that, it was noted Laxton was starting to run fairly well by the end of the session. Our younger member, Kian, had his trains moving around the area and we heard how Mike A, Paul P and Tom F had travelled their way there too, to get things going properly. Especially appreciated was Mike A’s head shunt to support operations on the Laxton yard.

On the rundown though it was between myself and Michael T running trains in and out of the staging area before we couldn’t hold off closing time any longer. I noted the return of the centipedes; as well as either the same switcher from last time or a new one come to plague the publicity officer’s terrible identification skills!

In spite of the last few trains stretching things a bit, we still managed to get out and away by 16:45. Definitely looking forward to the open house now!

– Neal K


Paul E’s coal drag on point with a BN Executive locomotive on the N scale.

ATSF Doodlebug from the author; a possible competitor to the RDCs. Note the pleasure dome relegated to the siding at Peach Meadows.

Thamesiders Physical Meet – Saturday, 22 April 2023

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The livestream setup for this meet. This will likely be the setup for the open house.

This physical meet saw numbers a little thinner on the ground; long drives and the Americana weekend took at least two of our newer regulars. But all was not lost; both the N and HO had just enough bodies to get setup and running by 12:00 at the latest, with time for maintenance and getting the Laxton modules up for the first time since their arrival.


The Laxton modules up and (mostly) running.

The N Scalers elected to have the live stream running, because the HO was mainly focused on the introduction of Laxton with some solid work from Paul P, Paul H and Tom F altering the stand in corner board to fit within the setup, and then fixing the wiring so the power and control busses route through correctly.

This was the first physical meet with the Thamesiders where I didn’t run any of my trains. This would normally have been a weird thing for me, but surprisingly with only a month or so to go, I had a couple of things to focus on and worry about let alone playing trains. This includes making sure the livestream ran on the Thamesiders’ YouTube channel properly.


Paul P’s shark nose units hauling a passenger express past the point future Laxton-bound trains will need to take to get there.

My highlight for this meet was being able to setup all the electronics with only two wiring issues. It’s a positive outlook on supporting Paul H and the group in future and hopefully some more smooth setups to come. Watching one of Tom F’s coal drags move off from the staging yard after you have successfully setup the track power is a nice little feeling.

If anyone visited me and dad/Dennis’ livestream from the Royston & District MRC Exhibition, you’ll remember there was no audio except for on the interchange via dad’s phone. That has since changed now, and part of the main test was to get my new little handy microphones to work. In the picture for post you’ll see the little black tribble-like creature on the cable coming from the (not so 4K) camera. This is the microphone with a little windbreak. Watch this space (or a latter post) to see the virdict.


A view from the N Scale. I highly approved of this. Once you go all the way, there’s no getting away!

We got some good little shots from the livestream of the N Scale, but unfortunately there was some issues around the reversing loop and the control bus which needed the expertise of Paul H to help Dean, David and Paul E to try and isolate and figure out. David’s Arduino-driven reversing loop may see some reprogramming after some sound advice!

Due to the reduced numbers we all started packing up at 15:00 and were all clear by the usual time of 17:00. I’ve been meaning to suggest another double day at some point to the group… But the Open Day I recon will stave off that craving for now.

Happy modelling everyone!

Neal K


Dean’s extra long Amtrak service; she featured on the livestream predominantly and triggered some of the later issues with the reserving loop.

Thamesiders Physical Meet – Saturday, 14 January 2023

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Our first physical meet of 2023 was, in my opinion, a well-organised one. Set out to setup quickly, the HO was up in record time thanks to another decent amount of helpers. The N Scale was not far behind and both layouts were running something by at least 11:00. With this quick win, the livestreams were able to return with some reasonable successes on the day, with an hour on the N Scale, overlooking the bridges at Taggart, and then another at Essex Ethanol on the HO Essex Belt Lines.


Dennis’ Chicago Great Western F3A hauling a unit train over the bridge

Dennis’ CB&Q E9 crossing the bridge with a passenger consist

Our first spot on the livestream was a SF Alligator hauling a track-cleaning box car, and there was a big push to get some equipment moving in the early stages. I spotted a personal favourite from Dennis’ collection, the CB&Q E9, as well as that familiar logging order now being what I believed to be David’s two truck shay. There were some issues unfortunately, and a decision was made to move the stream over to the HO to support some much needed maintenance on the N Scale. It seems there was a short happening somewhere down the line near the reverse loop, and after the lunch break the MOW crew had both return loops down and were working on them, so hopefully they got it sorted…


David’s two truck shay, taking its turn with the logs this time around

In terms of the HO, I set about fixing some pulled up rail at Ethanol, Paul P & Paul H looked at replacing some of Laxton’s points, as well as fitting some end boards to the standing fans, making all of the EBL modules now arranged in pairs for easier transport and handling. This month’s stock rosters included the usual express passenger trains and coal drags, but this time around the EBL had a brief dabble into the RDC locals, bringing about one of my personal highlights of this meet.


My (Neal K’s) pair of ATSF RDCs passing the Ethanol Plant

Both myself and Michael T had brought RDC pairs to run; Michael, from memory, had a pair of Reading & Pennsylvania RDCs, with one of them being an older model manufactured in the UK (It happened!), and I bought my newly acquired Rapido ATSF RDCs. We both had them out on the road for at least a lap back to back following one of the express passengers. This event unfortunately happened off screen when the N Scale had control, so there is no footage or pictures capturing both pairs. Maybe in future…?


Michael’s Centipedes hauling a long express passenger, with the engineer himself in the background

Taking some author privileges I’d like to take a small tangent and talk briefly about my RDCs (I’ll carry on about the meet after the next picture).

The purchase of these represent my final decision to stop investing in at least two separate eras and instead focus on a single era, including to my past self’s horror, offloading some equipment which no longer matched my chosen era. One of these “successful offloads” you’ll see later, but in line with that final decision came my first proper look into my models and their histories. To my delight I found not only Rapido’s description, but also another on the internet here:

ATSF RDC-1 DC-191

That’s it; I just wanted to share. What this means for my modelling plans is still unknown, but what I do know (a little) now brings me some satisfaction.

Back to the meet…


My Southern Pacific Dash-9, doing her best to get her unit train past the Ethanol Plant

Another highlight for me came in the form of newly-delivered pre-order which suffered a small fall the night before the meet. Thinking nothing of this little accident, I packed my new Scaletrains Dash-9 to run on the EBL. Little did I know the engine obviously had some internal mechanism damage as the front axles were refusing to spin, forcing all of the engine’s work onto the rear axles.

Since this was on the livestream, there were many notable instances of the hand of god. Eventually I managed to get her parked at Peach Meadows station awaiting rescue. The rescuer was none other than our younger modeller’s Conrail Dash-8, passed on to him from my collection as a Christmas Present.


A meet between old and (kind of) modern; Kian’s Conrail Dash-8, and Michael T’s mallet. The former is pulling into the siding at Essex Ethanol.

It was here the next highlight came, in the form of a meet between the Dash-8, and Michael T’s mallet; something I imagine never did happen and may never happen outside of possibly an excursion gone badly wrong…?

After the mallet’s train pulled out, the Dash-8 reversed back onto the main to proceed to rescue the Dash-9, and back to staging. I hope to have the Dash-9 repaired in time for the next meet, provided my lack of care hasn’t caused something too serious. There was one final highlight of the day…


My ATSF express passenger behind a E6 AB consist

Not as well researched for ATSF express consists as I am with the RDCs, I decided to bring what I believed to be a common express passenger consist of the ATSF. Whether this would be the Super Chief is up for debate, but until I can paint and light all cars (and especially a drumhead), it serves just as well as another freelanced express passenger such as the Essex Belt Limited Chief.

The highlight around this was in the face of some troubling derailments for the other modellers, this train ran every lap without a single issue. I believe I managed to score 5 laps in before it was time to pack up. It’s nice having at least one of my trains run very smoothly for once. We agreed to start packing at 15:00, and much to our surprise (and frustration) we were almost done by the time it was 16:00. You know what they say about it being better to be early than late…

Overall a good day I would say, and an okay start to 2023. My thoughts are with my parents and nephew on this the 16th anniversary of my sister’s passing, and my thoughts are with the group and the individual close to them whom recently was diagnosed with a serious illness.

Please keep them all in your thoughts and hearts for us. Stay safe, happy modelling and hold your loved ones close.


Neal K


My Santa Fe GP50 and GP60 pulling a reefer train

Thamesiders December 2022 – Merry Christmas and a happy New Year

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As the title and time of publication suggests, it is the holiday season. As I write this to you a few days into 2023, I’d like to take this opportunity, especially if you didn’t hear it from me, to wish you a Merry Christmas and a very happy New Year. It’s the time for celebration, gift giving, setting promises to ourselves we may never keep and letting go a bit for than just the finances. However for me, this is probably a very good space to summarise 2022 and the Thamesiders as a year, and what we as a group are looking forward to in 2023.

After the Annual General Meeting, it was a lovely dinner at the Swan

As you saw from the previous information and our calendars, December was the downtime month in terms of physical layout meets, where we met for the Annual General Meeting and Christmas Lunch. The main points from the AGM I recall are the well deserved recognition and appreciation of the hard work Paul E did in setting up and managing the NMRA May Meet for us, and the motion to make Martin G an Honorary Member. We also discussed at a high level our annual subs and our event for 2023, the Open Day at St Osyth.

There was also time allotted for the annual bring and buy between members, where I recall in earlier years I staunchly stood against the ideal of selling any of my models, however moving in the direction of potentially starting to focus on a single era and area, I brought some items for sale this time around. After both sessions we moved on to the Christmas Lunch where I am afraid to say I didn’t manage to get many pictures. Apologies; I was enjoying it a little too much! Maybe next year…?

Part of the gang (un)lucky enough to be in the single picture mostly decent enough to be shared. It seems I nearly got away no one noticing…

Next time I’ll be sure to get the waitress to get a group photo, but there will be plenty of opportunity to grab something in 2023 so watch out guys…

For me the meal at the Swan was a welcoming closure to what had been a lovely year (in my opinion). Now before you roll your eyes at me, let me defend the claim…

Already mentioned was the May meet, and although we weren’t the biggest show in town we did get our expenses covered and had some well-rounded interest from the local groups and villages.

The Essex Belt Lines at the May Meet 2022. In the background from left to right is Paul P, Dean H and Tom F. Further to the right is Martin G inspecting some track on the N Scale the night before the big day.

The N Scale at the May Meet on the day. Martin G is focused from behind the backscene while being supervised by Paul E on the right. In the background our newer member Dennis (aka dad) is making some moves on the other side of the yard.

Obviously the May meet goes to the top of the list, but some of the other noteworthy achievements include the HO changing the setup by introducing the 7×0 layout (previously mentioned as the 5×2 or 7×2).

The 7×0 EBL setup, making use of the previously stored additional staging boards allowing us to facilitate larger trains.

The N Scale saw some good progression in terms of scenery, particularly the crossing at Taggart.

A view of the N Scale with the scenery taking shape. Paul E and David A are inspecting the track, whilst Tom F sets up for lunch just behind EBL (HO).

And let’s not forget Paul H being able to secure a storage solution for us. This was highlighted during the AGM and from my perspective has played a key role in having better access to our inventory. This also allowed Mike A to kindly bring Laxton up (HO branch) where it is now stored with the other layouts.

This obviously isn’t every highlight, and I implore you to look back through the blog to see individual meets as well as the Ditchlight, but for me these were some of the good, well-rounded achievements for us this year as a group.

Looking forward to 2023 then, the main excitement will be our open day at St Osyth, currently set for 24 June. We’re not planning to run this as big as we did for the May Meet in 2022, but with reservations for the hall running from the Friday eve this is the next step up from our usual physical meets. We’ll be looking to distribute some localised publicity for the community as well as some of the local clubs over the next few months.

At the AGM there was also discussions around getting Laxton up to speed and aligned with the Essex Belt Lines. One key component of those discussions was around aligning the two sets of modules in a way where we could directly utilise the EBL staging, instead of having to complete a loop on the main before our trains could gain access to Laxton. I’m excited to see how that comes along, as well as what I can do to support such a venture.

There have also been some interest from a few members regarding making our own modules. I must profess I have started looking into this prospect so will be looking forward to doing something beyond the starting board I have (below).

So 2023 is set to be another good year I think. Aside from getting some working modules running, my only other resolution this year is to move forward with focusing on a specific era and area, and to really up the ante when it comes to publicity for the N Scale.

Just under 12 months to go; here’s to maybe achieving at least one of those goals, and for another great year ahead of us…

Happy modelling and see you soon!

Neal K.

Thamesiders Physical Meet – Saturday, 26 November 2022

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Our first arrivals for the last St Osyth meet of the year showed up at around 09:15, and they included the returning Paul P after his amazing holiday. We were also pleased to see again Mike A, bringing up Laxton which is now in the group’s storage, and Michael T to bring us some more interesting trains to run. Suffice to say the HO group had favourable numbers this time around and that was reflected by the Essex Belt Lines being almost completely ready to run by 11. This is also despite some final repairs being done to the central staging yard board, and some track levelling on the Dan and Patrick modules with many thanks to Paul P’s handiwork.

Paul P and Neal K’s combined super-superliner making her run past Peach Meadows. Train is being lead by Neal K’s two F40Phs.


The N Scale wasn’t far behind and a focal point for today’s meet was considering the tunnel ceiling and scenery for the left-hand return loop. There were also some recorded operations, with a much better quality compared to past footage with thanks to remembering to bring my tripod this time. The HO also squeezed some sequences in, but I still aim to favor the N Scale over the next few months, especially when we have the buildings and scenery out on the boards.

The consist making her way over the bridges


We did have a couple of visitors interested in the trains, but it is worth mentioning we had a small crowd’s worth of people coming in throughout the day looking for the St Osyth church Christmas fayre…?! The sign outside didn’t help… but I bet we’ve sowed some seeds of interest in the back of their minds…

Neal K’s Southern Pacific mixed freight arrived at the Ethanol Plant to drop off the tank cars, while Michael T’s 4-8-0 takes a hopper train to Peach Meadows.


My personal highlight for this meet had a tie between getting some great footage of the N Scale, and Paul P and I linking our Amtrak superliners to create a super-superliner consist! Regarding the former, I especially liked David’s Santa Fe long hoods and Dennis’ (aka dad to me) log train. The HO did have some difficulty with their trains, showing the behaviours I saw during the last meet where my F7A refused to respond to any commands. However, there was sufficient stock behaving themselves enough to run the layout, including my ethanol tank cars which were switched out and parked at the ethanol plant, and when it came time to pack up, being spotted to be taken off the layout.

A junior member’s Milwaukee Road G7m is going to retrieve the tank cars to pull from the SP’s consist and hold at the plants’ sidings. It will need to do a run-around before it can drop them off into the plant properly, but to do that, the SP train needs to leave. Hence getting the tank cars out of the way first…

And this is the locomotive after successfully completing the run around and now pulling back in to drop off into the dedicated areas for loading unloading, visible on the left where the model gent is standing on a catwalk.


One straight forward and almost on time pack up later, we are now ready for the AGM and Christmas lunch. We were sorry to hear of our usual caterer for the lunch falling into ill health, where Chris C very kindly moved us to the Swan to allow them to rest and where we all hope in good time, return to good health.

Dennis’ 4-4-0 American, in Minneapolis & St Louis RR, moving a freight car across Taggart’s bridges.

Dennis’ Milwaukee Road Baldwin VO-1000 switcher moving an empty log train.


If I don’t see you at the AGM or Christmas lunch, I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and a very happy new year.


Neal K

David A’s Santa Fe long hoods crossing the bridges at Taggart.

Thamesiders Physical Meet – Saturday, 22 October 2022

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Dennis and Dean working the N Scale’s yard

A Burlington Route E7 crossing the bridges at Taggart. Photo by Dennis.

The first arrivals turned up at the village hall around 09:00, and the N Scale contingent was more represented this time, where the priorities were also switched in terms of essential maintenance. Some new end boards were measured and installed for the HO, allowing the yard to come together in pairs instead of stacking atop one another, reducing the risk of damage to track and easier transport to and from storage.

As noted previously, we were able to get the majority of both layouts in the storage solution so it was a case of transporting the modules from the solution to the hall. We tend to stack the legs and braces for EBL on a single trolly, and use the sack barrows and second trolly to transport the modules themselves.

Dennis’ CNW reefer train, with a noted story about witnessing a long reefer train such as this pass by during his youth.

The HO’s setup was complete around 11:30, with the first trains running shortly after despite the setup not being fully complete. It took a moment to catch up with proper operations, but once done it was mostly seamless.

The N Scale for this meet returned to the classic L shape setup with Taggart, and the bridge corners. EBL continued with the 7×2 setup, and with many thanks for Paul H’s efforts, we now have a control panel which supports EBL’s signals and points again.

Now with a working panel, we installed the signals on EBL. These worked well as always (provided the right ones are installed!)

The N Scale saw a big reefer train, an RAE express service and some interesting Santa Fe / BNSF freight services. The Essex Belt Lines, once up and operational, saw two express passenger consists, two medium freights and a Southern Pacific commuter.

As I’ve understood there were a very little issues with the N Scale, and a couple on the HO. Noteworthy of course was the dead spot on Ethanol again; it may take a proper maintenance session to get that right but larger wheel-based engines or multi-engine consists may have a better time over this area until then.

Paul H’s new control panel for the 7×2 setup.

It was also noted one of the bridges is loose from its supports. This didn’t seem to affect operations but it was an item to monitor for us, especially when we are transporting the bridge modules across bumpy surfaces and slopes between the hall and storage.

We broke for lunch at around 01:30pm, making some basic plans for the NMRA Convention next month as well as potentially the next physical meet. There was also brainstorming for the Summer Open Day next year, so I will making moves on that shortly!

Another shot of the N Scale, this time with David and Paul E looking over the return loop. Tom F is in the background, readying EBL for break down and pack away.

A CSX Grain Hopper at the N Scale’s grain elevator. Photo by Dennis.

We started breaking down EBL at around 03:15pm, successfully finishing up just 10 minutes past 5. The N Scale was much quicker, but the gents kindly helped us with packing. Teamwork certainly makes the dream work…

My personal highlights for the day was getting to test my newly-converted GP9s, one of which worked flawlessly, and the other not so much. I also was able to try out my MTH F3B in a basic El Capitan consist (with admittedly more Express Baggage and RAE cars than passengers – Could this be prototypical? After a certain time, who knows?)

Looking at the rear end of the reefer consist, and at the front of the Mail/baggage express.

A Chicago Great Western GP30 on its way to the pulpwood mill after crossing the bridges at Taggart. Photo by Dennis.

Glad to be reminded, you’ll see I was able to get some shots in of the N Scale; my usual bias for the HO is hopefully being suppressed now, especially since the layout overall is progressing so well. Admittedly, it’s hard to multitask when it comes to trains, and reaching over the scales takes effort as well as the other Thamesiders’ reminding me.

A wonderful time as always; we had one visitor and several inquisitive lookers. There was understandably less compared to last month’s because of my slip up with the parish magazine. I definitely sent it this time; it’s due out at the start of November.

Happy modelling everyone, and see you next meet!

Neal K

My SP Local making a stop at Peach Meadow’s station. My intention here was to do a run around and swap with the engines, but we ran out of time and had to start packing; hopefully next year…